Mirrors and lenses for multiphoton microscopes


There’s been an interesting discussion on the Confocal listserv, and we’ll quote some of that discussion below. We’ve always used protected gold and silver mirrors for our multiphoton systems. That’s still what we recommend for most neuroscience labs, but it’s worth discussing other types.

Peter Rupprecht was seeing some strange behavior in his 2p scope (wavelength dependent pulse broadening/dispersion; video here), and traced it back to dielectric mirrors (E03 type, Thorlabs).

From Michael Giacomelli (MIT):
A dielectric mirror is an interference (IIR) filter. For normal reflective mirrors, the phase response isn’t too important and the layers (taps) are optimized for reflectivity and cost. The phase response is whatever the optimizer picks as cheapest, and can be very strange at some wavelengths. They make ultrafast dielectric mirrors that have a specified phase function, both for dispersion compensation (Thor sells these too) or just for high reflectivity without (uncontrolled) dispersion.

I am a little surprised you saw such an extreme response from that one filter, but it’s possible you happened to hit it at a point where the phase response flipped very rapidly from the blue end of your pulse to the red end. Unless you really need high reflectivity, might be worth just using a silver mirror.

By the way, once you get this sorted out, look at those achromats you added as well. Thor gives you the thicknesses and materials, and the dispersions can be looked up here.

The dispersion of individual achromats varies enormously, with tiny differences in focal length sometimes giving very large differences in dispersion. For example, at 900nm, the Thor’s 125mm achromat has double the dispersion (900 vs 470 fs^2) of its 100mm doublet. If you can get away with a singlet, the 100mm LA5817 will give you just 90 fs^2. For this reason I usually try to avoid using stock doublets in ultrafast systems, or if I need them, get ones customized for low dispersion. [In our experience, the aberration correction offered by achromats is worth the increased dispersion, the latter of which can be at least partially dealt with by the pre-chirper. YMMV. -Labrigger]

From Craig Brideau (University of Calgary):
I don’t recommend standard dielectric mirrors for ultrafast applications. The coating is designed for maximum reflectivity with no regard to phase implications. The result can be very unpredictable and in your case clearly led to undesirable higher order dispersion. The best mirrors are protected silver, or if your budget allows, the slightly more expensive ultrafast silver mirrors. Ultrafast dielectric mirrors are also available but these are quite expensive as the coatings are also designed to be nearly phase neutral.

UPDATE (4 June 2018):
David Chen (Postdoc at the Max Planck Institute for Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics) said:
“If you ask Thorlabs, they will provide you the dispersion plots.”
And shared this one for exactly the coating on Peter’s mirror, E03:

(S,P = the perpendicular and parallel polarization directions, respectively. AOI = angle of incidence. GDD = group delay dispersion.)

As you can see, the dispersion varies wildly with wavelength. For many applications, this isn’t a concern, and the extra reflectance from a dielectric coating can be important. But for ultrafast applications, this can be a big problem.